Every scene resonates with pain and resentment…usually I get to do some happy scenes in between all the serious stuff but this one is pretty much 95% all drama. I cried over the ending so much I am beginning to wonder if I have it in me to keep this up till the end…
*thank you m_s for the screencap Can You Hear My Heart E22
Every scene resonates with pain and resentment…usually I get to do some happy scenes in between all the serious stuff but this one is pretty much 95% all drama. I cried over the ending so much I am beginning to wonder if I have it in me to keep this up till the end…
*thank you m_s for the screencap
Well Im not surprised it ending this way.. way in the beginning M/J the kid who trow her (then known father and stepsister) because they are poor and lived with D’s mother and as D’s brother..well how can a brother do this.. even T used him D didn’t deserved this..TT That something I expected from him since he is really shameless and careless..
D fighting get YOUR SEAT BACK AND YOUR GIRL..
Wow, this song is fitting. Especially considering the current turn of events… but since I started this before Maroo went bad, I guess it can serve as a reminder that things were once cheery and cute – not all of it was tears and heartache. I’m positive they’ll get to that “good” place again.
Thanks for recapping!!!
I think I’ll stop watching this drama till I know how does it ends. I’m a fan of the ‘not-brothers’ bromance’, so I hope in the end everything turns out for the best for the not-brothers. Loving each other for so many years surely means something. I don’t believe in love that ends after such a trivial angsty matters as family revelations are ^_~
I’m a bit speechless right now so I think I’m going to pretend I didn’t read the recap tonight. The writer has just robbed me of the power of thinking straight. I think I’m in as much pain as DJ and WR and can’t say anything because my heart hurts too much, for everyone. Well, perhaps not everyone because I just want Choi to diasppear from the face of this earth!
Rebel Souls, thanks a lot for your recaps of this show.
I saw the 21 raw, and missed the 22, but sure, after reading your recaps, and already crying with ep 21, I’m not gonna watch them, until (thanks to you) I’m sure It’s ok for the 2 brothers. Ma-roo is such a complex character, and the actor is so freaking good (so loved the “portray” of the show on Thundie’s prattle). This Ma-roo character is so taking over me, I understand his hatred, his wounds, his flaws, but their brotherhood with DJ is such priceless, with all the bad things going on, and the CDJ’mom / HJ-MR relationship sinking, it’s quite killing me. I hope, I think, you can’t bury 16 years like that. But my poor heart won’t be able to cope and watch, so I’ll wait for a better sky, reading Softy make me cry enough. I’m waiting for a clear sky, I so love this show, and the 2 brothers relationship.
“I dont get M – why did he forgive choi but not S? why does one parent deserve recognition over the other? is it cuz choi has power and S doesnt? who embraces his murdering father so easily but dismisses a mom who abandoned him? my head hurts from trying to figure him out”
Honestly, I don’t think he’s forgiven him at all. At the moment he’s just playing the part of a dutiful son because he needs his power and influence in order to enact his revenge. I’m sure once he reaches his end-goal, he’ll betray him without a second thought (unless showing him mercy at the very end is the way he redeems himself). The only reason he was able to dismiss S so easily, is because she has nothing to offer him, and he has no reason to pretend otherwise. He doesn’t need or want family – not when so much of his anger and resentment is wrapped up in that very thing.
Yeah,your assumption makes a lot of sense, I hope it will come true in this drama. Because as off right now I don’t see any difference between M and Choi, both of them are bastards. ]:
completely agree with your take on JH. Hah! I can’t believe that he will kiss ass his father. Without his mom, there won’t be him. I hope the struggle in taking over WK from Choi will not last till the end of the series. I want to see DJ’s reaction upon knowing WR knew his hearing problem all along. I want to see DJ’s family embraces WR’s family. DJ needs to get an acceptance from his mom to ask for WR. DJ’s mom is really a controlling freak!
I think its actually the other way round…He didn’t forgive Choi at all but he treats his mother as someone who needs a rehab…That’s why he let her have a taste of her own medicine, so that she will wake up and realize what kind of pathetic life she chose for herself and do something about it…
But all this, only if we assune JH to be on some kind of a stealth mission to redeem himself by becoming a tool in paying off for his father’s sins…
I just don’t buy the stealth-mission theory. Going into Episode 22, I was holding out hope like everyone else, but his behavior, actions, words – they just come across as too calculated and too cruel. If he was secretly working behind the scenes to help Dong Joo, there’s no reason for him to be so ruthless and heartless in their encounters. For one thing, he gains nothing by attacking his deafness, seeing as how Choi knows nothing about it, and his mother wasn’t there to overhear. Doing that, he hurts no one but Dong Joo. And for another, his anger, resentment, and sense of betrayal feels too genuine to be an act – this is a man who spent the last 16 years fearing the very thing he’s currently experiencing (being abandoned/betrayed by T). It’s in his character’s nature to lash out when wronged; and I think his current downward spiral is necessary in the long run if he ever wants to grow as a person, and finally embrace the “family” he left behind. He couldn’t achieve that in the false-life he was perpetrating as T’s son and DJ’s brother (and certainly not in the role he’s taken on now). No matter how hard he tries to convince himself otherwise, he IS Bong Ma-roo, not Jang Joon-ha. Though he claims to be living his third life – what he really needs to do is gain closure from his first.
Likewise, I have trouble imagining him playing Devil’s Advocate for S. In his mind, more than anyone, he has reason to despise her – she abandoned him as a baby, and then denied his birthright as a teen. In fact, I can’t even recall a time when he *wasn’t* hating her. For him to lash out at everyone, while secretly trying to “rehabilitate” her – no offense, but that doesn’t make sense to me. If he couldn’t accept Young Gyu’s flaws when he thought he was legitimately his father (or his Grandmother’s perceived betrayal, for that matter) then I doubt he’d accept S’s simply because she gave birth to him. That requires understanding and sacrifice – both of which she’s currently incapable of. One day, down the road, maybe they’ll be able to have a genuine heart-to-heart, and make amends… but I don’t see that happening now, or anytime soon. At the moment, he’s on the warpath and just wants her out of the way, and out of his life.
That said, I’m still confident he will redeem himself in the end. But whether it’s through his Grandmother, Young Gyu, Dong Joo, Woo Ri, Shin Ae, T, or all the above… remains to be seen.
You do have a point if we really delve into his original character…but I think the moment he learned the truth about his birth, he is somewhat a changed man…Don’t you think if it was YG/granny/WR or even DJ, they would try to understand the other side’s POV and help them no matter what???I think he is trying to learn to be that….He is trying to be a son to his adopted father and NOT to Choi….
I think right now he is on a path to go back to his granny and YG by trying to restore everything to its original shape…
“You do have a point if we really delve into his original character…but I think the moment he learned the truth about his birth, he is somewhat a changed man…”
If by “changed” you mean frightening, confrontational, and threatening, then yes, you could say that… lol. What makes his sudden descent into vengeance so difficult to bear (and for many, to accept) is that we *did* get to see his playful, caring, happy side as an adult… so we know he has the capacity for good, and like Dong Joo, we want to think the best of him. And yet, I can’t close my eyes to the truth, any easier than Woori can. If he was truly on the road to redemption, why would he take the dark path to get there? Why attack Dong Joo at all, when their target is Choi? Why the elaborate game when his personality has always been honest, outspoken, and upfront? (Even when confronting Choi directly, he never used false pretenses. He was always forthright with who he was backing.) He’s just not the sort of person to go guerrilla, and hurt everyone he cares about in the process – he wears his heart on his sleeve; he always has. And his pain, his anguish, his sense of betrayal and raw pain… I don’t understand how people can see that, and call it a bluff.
“Don’t you think if it was YG/granny/WR or even DJ, they would try to understand the other side’s POV and help them no matter what?”
If it WAS any of them we were talking about, then yes, of course. But it’s not, it’s MR/JH. And to compare him to them, in my opinion, is like comparing apples to rocks. MR/JH has *never* had the same optimistic outlook on life as YG, Granny, WR, and DJ. So what they’d do in his situation is irrelevant, because they never wouldn’t left home and placed themselves in this situation in the first place.
“I think he is trying to learn to be that….He is trying to be a son to his adopted father and NOT to Choi….I think right now he is on a path to go back to his granny and YG by trying to restore everything to its original shape…”
I humbly disagree. If reuniting with Young Gyu and making amends was his main goal, he would not have to drag Dong Joo through the dirt to do it. And why insult the adopted family he’s trying to return to? Why flash his money and power around, and try to steal his “sister” from the man he loved like a brother? Why keep up the “act” when the person he has to “fool” is not even present? People who are trying to “set things right” do not do it through tears, betrayal, and mud-slinging. He could easily destroy Choi and return WK to Dong Joo *without* being a complete, insufferable jerk in the process.
I do think everything you said *will* happen eventually. I just don’t think it’s occurring now, as we speak.
“I do think everything you said *will* happen eventually. I just don’t think it’s occurring now, as we speak.”
There is just 8 more episodes so when else do you suppose all this will happen if not now???
We did see people change overnight in these dramas haven’t we???
But you know what…I LOVED your reply and couldn’t help smiling while reading it….Because as you may have noticed it already, I am a DJ/WR/YG fangirl….hahaha….and the way you spoke about them, made me EEEEEEE….
I am so happy for once we are getting to see a pure and a deeper relationship between the main couple rather than some stupid, silly childish love….I am so glad they stand up for each other at every opportunity…I am soo glad the heroine here is very clear about her priorities unlike the other pushovers we get to see in the other dramas…But I do hope DJ comes out clean in front of WR about his deafness…that is the only discontentment I have on his part…I don’t care if he chooses to keep it from the rest of the world, but he needs to share it with WR and NOW…
whoops, I accidentally replied to this below.
i think for now JH is on the “Every man for himself” since the person he trusted used him and then discarded him when it was time. he will use choi to gain WK, and when that happens he will kick choi out. but like you, i believe he will redeem himself!!!
I will believe your theory whether it is true or not. I am in denial mode and it gives me hope. I am just laughing at myself as a JH-Warrior that I am findind comfort in my Chingu the Anti-JW Warrior. Life is full of surprises isn’t it. Big Hug!!
All I know is next week I am going to watch and if that episode ends up being another one like E21 and E22 – I am out …some of those things he said – no matter what the reason was for saying it – it went way beyond what a sane person would say in that situation and what he said and did to D- after all those years of close brotherly love is unforgivable and inexcusable and the thought of watching him inflict more pain like that to D leaves a dull ache where all the joy I had for this drama is sapped right out of me
Aww, just remember: There’s always a light at the end of the tunnel! No matter how dark things may appear now, perseverance and sincerity will win out in the end. So hang in there! Dong Joo will show M how strong, capable, and independent he’s become; Young Gyu and Grandma will remind him what truly defines family; and Woori will show him how powerful unconditional love can be. So don’t let fear hold you back – Dong Joo needs you in his corner now more than ever. ^_^
Awww softy, I also was very sad and hurt by JH actions and words, can’t even watch the episode subbed… but please hang in there, let’s suffer together, just how he laughed together before.
Sorry, I’m maybe selfish to say this, but let’s endure until the end. Please and fighting!!! I have faith the end will be worth of your suffering… Kisses and fighting.
Btw : if you can’t, I won’t blame you, no one have to endure suffering… but I hope you can endure together with us^^ kisses and thanks for enduring it so far
* A typo: just how **we laughed together before.
I’m with you Softy. I will skip the terrible part where JH went nutz!!! I just want to see DJ and WR scenes. There is nothing good coming out to see JC and JH on the screen now. They bring so much heartache to the viewers…. LOL.
Awww…big hug to you too….
JH does seem to be having something up his sleeve….but like Softy said, its really hurting to see him torture DJ to this level no matter what his reasons were….I wish he stops here….I wouldn’t have cared if DJ is the retaliating type…
I think the only thing he has up his sleeves, is a sincere desire to back-stab Choi…
Ditto, as of now for sure, JH is out to revenge Choi and I don’t think he can win easily, like father like son. I think JH now is letting out his jealousy of DJ that he’d kept over the years in his heart, in his eyes, everybody seems to love DJ and he couldn’t make himself understand why. Lashing out on DJ, yes, part of it cuz of T, part of it, just pure jealousy.
And what’s with JH messed with Energy Cell? Of all those subsidiary companies of WK?
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thank you for the recap…i was a little lost as to what was being discussed…but i also couldn’t believe that JoonHa will actually do that to DongJoo, the brother he was with, shared laughter and pain with half of his life. how dare he make him ‘deaf’ in front of everyone, when he knows that is his only weakness.
i too feel that with all the pain he’s feeling right now that ‘brotherly love’ should surpass whatever is blocking their future right now. we’ve all seen how close they’ve become and how much one loves the other. But then again, Maroo has always been a sad, lonesome boy…Let’s hope that Woori will be the one to bind them together again to get past whatever heartaches they’ve had!
TNS Episode 22 Ratings ^^
Nationwide 13.5 (6th)
Seoul 16.8 (6th)
there are four scenes that i found memorable in this episode
1) the father son scene with JH and Choi – even though JH is calling Choi father, he will not forgive him(omg the actor for JH is good – the sudden change of expression is just astounding!!) and will most likely make good with his promise to his grandma that he will wreck havic to Choi, S, and grandma.
2) when JH threw S out of the house and Choi just stood there like he can give a shit. Um… does he not think that JH will do the same to him? i’m sure Choi will watch JH very closely but unfort. for Choi he is bloated with his own arrogance that he underestimate his foes…
3) when DJ punched SC first. DJ won’t instigate a fight, but he also won’t just stand there and wait to be hit. So watch out JH and Choi, and even T -DJ’s patience is at its last thread and when he punches they will hit the ground stuned that poor deaf DJ can actually fight back and hit hard!
4) WR telling JH off. if he won’t be MR and he won’t be JH who is D’s brother, then he has nothing to do with her because that means he is Choi’s son not only by blood (but she does not blame him for that) but also by choice (this i don’t think she can stomach). she see that JH picked Choi over his real family and his adopted family because he wanted more power and wealth, and she made it clear that she doesn’t care for any of that by telling him she doesn’t want the expensive campagne she wants Soju.
5) the last scene when DJ told Jh this will be the last time he will cry for him. maybe its me imagining things, or maybe the actor for JH is just a DAMN GOOD ACTOR, but when DJ said that, there was a flicker of regret or remorse or just desperation for salvation in JH’s eyes, saying “DJ don’t give up on me”.
OMG i love this drama but like everyone else here – this drama will leave a very deep impression on me!!! Thank you Soulrebel for recaping this drama because ur hard work has made us die hard fans every so grateful to you because we are able to watch and understand such beautiful acting and dialogue from the drama!!!
I saw his eyes too (no. 5), basically JH’s losing his brother and sis in this ep. He’s the one pushing everyone away. Love your summary ^_^
thank u! i just love this drama. scenes pop up from my memory out of nowhere sometimes. lol like i was riding the train today and the scene with dj and woori in his office just came to mind and i started to smile. lol i’ve gone crazy!
Buahahaha, I re-watched that scenes many many times, so you’re not alone.
I was debating on soompi whether or not DJ was hiding his love in the office, as if the writer heard my pray. Only that it’s our lovely WR who chased DJ around the office. LOL.
Thanks for your recaps! I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your hard work.
I enjoyed this show so much!!
M didn’t suddenly turn into a bad guy over just 1 night. He was terribly bad since he was a kid. I always hates him. He used to care about D and D’s mom only because of himself, he’s selfish.
M maybe turning bad now, but i have agut feeling that he is up to something. both hurt by his bloodline and his foster family , most especially T .,He is venting his anger in a way he knows would hurt them too just like how is undergoing at the moment. BUT, I HAVE THIS STRONG FEELING, HE IS STILL ON T’s SIDE. I remember him telling T , he will die with T & D until the end…. , ‘IF CAN”T BEAT your enemy, JOIN them’. it’s like….. i’m you son (both choi & T), look what you have turned me into.. i both love you and hate you. …watch me doing my way to get back on you in both ways. He’s hurting D, because he was so hurt by T’s action, whom he loved so much. If my guess is right… M is on choi’s side now, for two reasons: to avenge T & D as repayment for raising him, and to get choi’s affection then crushed it later, for abandoning him previously.
Dear Softy, I heard you are having a hard time translating. Well, I would say it should be a bumpy ride from now for 4-5 episodes because there are so many layers to be solved before they are happy again. Plus, this episode is just an appetizer, the real main course is coming soon, so more tears can be expected. But don’t you want to see an awesome and awesome-r DJ? He’s shaping up really great, the way he stood up with JH in the last scene. I’m kind of excited to see brotherly war *rubbing hands* , both are intelligent, and they both know each other so well, of course WR will be dragged along in this war too cuz she is their weakness. Also, DJ’s deafness will be used to harm DJ again and again from now because it’s the main plot of the drama, I even think of T may use DJ’s deafness to her benefit (i.e to break up WR/DJ). But the worst imo is already over (JH threats DJ of his deafness), now DJ (and me) will be putting up his guard and prepare to fight. WR/DJ love will also be tested too (Kdrama law ^^).
The last scene was horrible but a small voice in my head keeps saying ‘awesome writing’ . I thought at this stage, the writer should tie up the loose ends, instead she created a new one (3rd generation JH). Let’s see how she will conclude this whole mess in 8 episodes. Please take care ^_^ …….*hug hug*
“There is just 8 more episodes so when else do you suppose all this will happen if not now???”
That is plenty of time to wrap things up. Just consider all that happened in the first eight episodes when the series was just beginning: They spanned 16 years and managed to set-up the main conflicts in as little as four. They can EASILY explore Maroo’s descent/salvation in those remaining episodes, while still addressing the other conflicts (DJ’s deafness being revealed, Nam’s past, Woori and YG’s birth secrets). It only took Joon Ha one week to truly go “bad” and join Choi, so there’s no reason he couldn’t regret his decision just as quickly, and start trying to redeem himself in Episodes 24 or 25. Or, if his anger does last till the end, there’s always the tried-and-true method… kill (or nearly kill) someone he loves who he has been pushing away (YG/Grandma/WR/DJ). If the death of his step-mother was the catalyst that led him to T – it makes sense that another tragedy would return things to the way they were. Particularly if they were hurt trying to protect him; or were injured as a result of something he did.
Of course, that’s just one of many theories. And personally, I hope it doesn’t come to that…
“But I do hope DJ comes out clean in front of WR about his deafness…that is the only discontentment I have on his part…I don’t care if he chooses to keep it from the rest of the world, but he needs to share it with WR and NOW…”
I’m one of those people who firmly believes they both already know, and are just choosing not to talk about it… so for me, that’s not even an issue. I think fans who are waiting for a big, huge reveal are going to be disappointed when they realize it happened back in Episode 13, lol.
“But I do hope DJ comes out clean in front of WR about his deafness…that is the only discontentment I have on his part…I don’t care if he chooses to keep it from the rest of the world, but he needs to share it with WR and NOW…” ==> couldn’t agree more with you on this. DJ doesn’t have to announce to the whole world that he’s hearing impaired. But I would like him to talk about his tragedy and losing his hearings with WR. It’ll be the best scene. No one else needs to know about his sufferings just WR is enough. I’m waiting for that scene.
M never forgave Choi! (Don’t give up on him, lol) He’s just temporarily using him to get what he believes he rightfully deserves from his “father” (refer to evil smirk at the end of conversation with Choi at the cliff). Right now I really don’t know what’s going through his head to say that kind of hurting words to D too – I think the revelations must be too overwhelming and he’s really desperate. But I think somewhere in the middle of his evil plans henceforth, he’ll discover that he has the ability to regain everything but yet will still have nothing, and might just hand WK over to D after defeating Choi, while not forgetting to give T her just deserts.
I’ll be rooting for this scenario
woah.. my screencaps were up.. so happy.. wanted to do for ep22, but my torrent d/l got delayed
Only just now watched ep 22 because the subs are up. I can’t believe how frightening Ma roo/Joon ha is in this episode. I can’t believe the writers made him so bad. I’m completely torn because the story is so good, but I don’t want Ma roo to be so bad or for Dong joo and Ma roo to fight! They set us up with that bromance from the start and now they are tearing us apart with those two fighting!
I love Dong joo, but I still have big hopes for Ma roo/Joon ha to redeem himself as the story continues. Ma roo has definitely done things he needs to work for forgiveness for, but I still can’t let go of the whole ‘he abandoned his family thing.’ Maybe this is what the writers intend for us to understand, but I still strongly don’t think a 14yr old can ‘abandon’ his family. Ma roo ran away. To abandon something or someone you have to have been able to be responsible for them in the first place and a 14yr can’t be held responsible for a family (even though sometimes that happens in life). Then you’ve abandoned your responsibility. A 14yr old is in someone’s care and the responsibility of someone. I know others may disagree, but I think Ma roo has lots of other greater mistakes he’s made to repent for besides running away.
I’m feeling for our girl Woo ri. sigh. She is in such a tough spot and I’m so proud of her in the Energy Cell office when she told Ma roo/Joon ha that he has no right to order her around since he declared he’s not either one of those people. Woo ri fighting! Also I’m glad grandma is feeling better. Grandma’s story alone could make a really great drama…might help explain wtf happened to Shin Ae that she ended up so messed up…
Also Dong joo has grown on me… I kinda have a crush on him now. Totally unexpected. He’s just soo awesome and so good to Woo ri and her family. Not that I condone violence, but when he punched Seung chul O.O wowzers, suddenly he wasn’t that pale kid who lost his hearing and needed to be protected by his mom and hyung…he seemed very athletic (poor Seung chul by the way)
Well to end my rambling, this show is so good. I don’t know if I can survive to the end because I am so torn up watching it. I’m scared of the epic battle that’s just begun….I know things are going to get worse before they get better, but I can’t help wanting Ma roo to redeem himself and for hims and Dong joo to be loving/trusting brothers again.
hmmmm waiting for ep 23 recap anxiously…. such a great ending in ep 23… Softy i hope u will not drop this drama… fighting